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	<title>Comments on: More &#8220;order from chaos&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: Greg Hill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg Hill</dc:creator>
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		<description>Hi Csaba,

I&#039;m the guy you quoted above (Greg Hill). I&#039;d like to preface my remarks by pointing out that this article was written from the point of view of individual bloggers setting up &lt;a rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; href=&quot;http://ghill.customer.netspace.net.au/freshtags&quot;&gt;navigation systems&lt;/a&gt;, rather than an analysis of a site from the entire community&#039;s perspective.
1)
&quot;Categories are fewer in number than tags&quot;. I still stand by this. Just because a few tags become popular for a particular site doesn&#039;t mean the unpopular tags somehow don&#039;t count. Blogs that employ the &quot;pure&quot; tagging approach (ie not tags-as-categories) typically have dozens or hundreds of tags. You might be able to find the odd pathological case - but I doubt it.

2) &quot;Categories persist for a long time, but tags don&#039;t&quot;. I could have been clearer. I meant the &quot;active life&quot; ie still being associated with content, not just used for retrieval. This is in contrast to the &quot;one-shot&quot; tags.

3)Generic vs specific. If you&#039;re using &quot;news&quot; as a tag, I&#039;d suggest that&#039;s a category! Which pretty much gets to the nub of it. The flavour of my post is to define a category as a particular (restricted) kind of tag. Why?

Well, in the context of organising blog posts, some blogging platforms support &quot;true&quot; convential, traditional categories (like WordPress). Others (like Blogger) don&#039;t, and they have to be bolted on with hackery. The major focus on Freshblog is doing this with &quot;web2.0&quot; tech (tags, feeds, web services, AJAX etc). So, for people doing it this way, all they have is tags. The question is whether they wish to &quot;replicate&quot; categories with tags or use tags &quot;natively&quot;. In practice (as I pointed out and you seem to agree), many people use a hybrid approach, where frequency indicates the &quot;degree of categoriness&quot;.

Cheers,

-Greg.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Csaba,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m the guy you quoted above (Greg Hill). I&#8217;d like to preface my remarks by pointing out that this article was written from the point of view of individual bloggers setting up <a rel="nofollow" href="http://ghill.customer.netspace.net.au/freshtags">navigation systems</a>, rather than an analysis of a site from the entire community&#8217;s perspective.<br />
1)<br />
&#8220;Categories are fewer in number than tags&#8221;. I still stand by this. Just because a few tags become popular for a particular site doesn&#8217;t mean the unpopular tags somehow don&#8217;t count. Blogs that employ the &#8220;pure&#8221; tagging approach (ie not tags-as-categories) typically have dozens or hundreds of tags. You might be able to find the odd pathological case &#8211; but I doubt it.</p>
<p>2) &#8220;Categories persist for a long time, but tags don&#8217;t&#8221;. I could have been clearer. I meant the &#8220;active life&#8221; ie still being associated with content, not just used for retrieval. This is in contrast to the &#8220;one-shot&#8221; tags.</p>
<p>3)Generic vs specific. If you&#8217;re using &#8220;news&#8221; as a tag, I&#8217;d suggest that&#8217;s a category! Which pretty much gets to the nub of it. The flavour of my post is to define a category as a particular (restricted) kind of tag. Why?</p>
<p>Well, in the context of organising blog posts, some blogging platforms support &#8220;true&#8221; convential, traditional categories (like WordPress). Others (like Blogger) don&#8217;t, and they have to be bolted on with hackery. The major focus on Freshblog is doing this with &#8220;web2.0&#8243; tech (tags, feeds, web services, AJAX etc). So, for people doing it this way, all they have is tags. The question is whether they wish to &#8220;replicate&#8221; categories with tags or use tags &#8220;natively&#8221;. In practice (as I pointed out and you seem to agree), many people use a hybrid approach, where frequency indicates the &#8220;degree of categoriness&#8221;.</p>
<p>Cheers,</p>
<p>-Greg.</p>
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